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Marty, I must add the Droid Charge to the list. Samsung gives you a beautiful color wheel and screen but the RAM is hoooooorrible! Horrific. My Moto D2 ran faster and it was 3G. I'm so pissed with all the Force Closes and Reboots. I hope to exchange this nightmare.
Agree I have both the HTC Thunderbolt 4G and the Droid Charge and the Thunderbolt is far superior. Might I add that the battery life really is NOT that bad. The EVO 4G has comparable battery life and it's practically the same phone. Lay off the Thunderbolt 4G
The thunderbolt has good battery life if you turn off mobile network if you were smart enough to think of that and sprint has horrible connection
Ever since the Gingerbread update for the EVO 4G, my battery lasts all day, even with 4G on. I hope you were using information prior to the update, or something was wrong with the EVO you were basing your comment off of.
So Andrew-What is your opinion of the HTC EVO 4G? My husband just bought one and seems to like it a lot. With what little I have played with it, I seem to like it too. I currently have a BlackBerry Curve, but compared to my husband's EVO, the BlackBerry is SLOW! I like the touchscreen on my husband's EVO. I find myself pocket dialing friends and family with the BB. Will switching to the EVO eliminate this problem? Thanks!
Agreed, my T'bolt had good battery life but once rooted and flashed with a new Liquid ROM the battery life is better than ANY other Android phone I've used!
well for one are u actually getting 4g on your phone because that is what causes the horrible battery life on the thunderbolt and the charge has a far superior battery life but out of the 4g phones the thunderbolt is the fastest. Push comes to shove id sell the charge any day of the week hell id sell the revolution over the thunderbolt. Thats the problem with 4g phones when your on the 4g network it drains the battery but you do have the option of turning it off or just use a car charger.
I love my streak! The size and form is what I like most.
AND IM STILL GONNA BUY ONE. IVE WANTED ONE FOR MONTHS NOW SINCE I SAW IT AND I DONT THINK ONE PERSON'S REVIEW WILL DETER ME. IM NOT INTO ALL THE FRIENDBOOK AND ALL THAT SHIT ANYWAY. I WANT THE PHONE CAUSE ITS BIG AND I LOVE BIG THINGS. ASK MY MAN HONEY!
I've have my Streak since December 2010, and I love it. At work I normally keep my phone in my dress shirt pocket since it is so flat. Everywhere else I put it in my rear jeans pocket but will take it out when I sit down. I sometimes forget to take it out of my pocket when I sit in my car, but it doesn't squish it if I forget.
I have no type of case on my Streak because it makes it too bulky. Coolest phone I've ever owned.
The 2.2 update solved most if not all of the Thunderbolt's problems. I have it, I love it. The battery life is what I expected, I get a good day out of it and I am a frequently doing things on it.
I love my Samsung Epic, but the battery does not hold up well. It barely lasts 24 hours
24 hours is amazing battery life...
I love my Samsung Epic for all the features and yes, 24 hours is great. These smart phones are not like the old phones. I have a charger at home, in the car, and at work. It's worth having to keep it charged to have such a cool phone. Great camera, connections, apps, and good connectivity. Enjoy!
with a custom rom and a few tweaks my epic battery will last an average of 36-40 hours...
The Verizon Droid X2 should be on this list too. I'm on my second one and the keyboard screen keeps freezing up. I've had two 40 minute conversations with Verizon and they want to send me a USED phone to replace this one....uh no!
In regards to countrygirl who's trying to get a new phone with verizon good luck with that i had the crappy blackberry bold and it kept freezing and after the 5th used replacement phone we called and demanded a new model but no so we went as far as to actually complain enough to talk to the president of the company and after a 40min conversation finally got an iPhone 4 but not for free of course they were so generous as to move our contract up a year so we would only have to pay $99 for a phone how generous of them!
zleach... verizon tried to do that to me with using an early upgrade on a phone i just upgraded 4 months prior... and replaced 3 times... needless to say i went from the gz-one brigade to the gz-one commando android for free with no upgrade. oh and the commando is military grade dust, shock and waterproof.it always is a good idea to actually go to the store that has a technician and if need be throw yourself on the floor in front of everyone and throw a temper tantrum when the store is the busiest...lol! i have never had a problem when i go to the store and actually end up leaving with some sort of free accessories for my new free phone too. i ALWAYS have a problem when i call them though and its because they dont have to look at you and can hang up if you need to get irate... they cant do that in the store especially if they are busy and the other customers are watching... always remember this bad news spreads faster than good news and use that to your advantage... cheers!!!!
You get a certified like new phone from verizon, and you get it in at most five days. Would you rather send your phone to Motorola and have them perform warranty service on it for at least two weeks, only get back your same device, which is basically used?
Also, switch your keyboard from the multi-touch to the swype keyboard. There is a known issue with the multi touch keyboard and it will be fixed with an update.
If you dont know how to do that, you probably shouldn't have a smartphone.
I am on my 5th Droid. I've had so many problems with my DroidX that by the time my 4th one died on me...verizon couldn't even get the thing to turn on, not even with doing a hard reset they sent me a brand new DroidX2 in the box with all new chargers etc. STILL this new Droid is aweful. Still the same problems, phone freezing up and disappearing texting, a ton of forcecloses on apps, the phone shutting off on its own while charging, poor battery life, I could go on....this phone overall is no good...new or 'certified'. I've already had to reset this phone too and still it's not much better. But going into see a tech is much better than over the phone. I have one more year before upgrading so the pool is on to see how many phones I will end up getting overall by next July!! I'm smart enough to know these are not things a phone should be doing. Or Motorola shouldn't be hyping them up so much.
I have the Droid X and I upgraded to Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread) and started having keyboard problems too. I reset the phone to default settings twice and it kept occuring so I'm waiting for another Droid X in the mail. I sure it's going to be a refurbished one but if it works. I'm happy so we'll see...I had no problem with the keyboard with Froyo...
to avoid the problems you have been having i always recommend going to the verizon store (one that has a technician in the store) they will work on it and if they cant fix it they will swap it out there for a new one(if its in stock). also if its still under warranty they will swap it out too. finally always get the insurance for your phone. i know its 5 dollars extra a month but if your out of your manufacturers warranty period they will replace your phone with a new one for 30 or 35 dollars which is better than paying for a new one. its definately worth it especially if you cant get a new phone for some strange reason your phone will be replaced if it gets "lost". hope this helps out in the future. oh yeah you can add insurance to your lines at any time...cheers!!!
Most of what you said is inaccurate. Verizon stores do not swap phones in the stores as much as they used to. They will in certain cases, such as the 2 week replacement. Stores do not have certified like new devices, which is what they give people within the warranty period. And insurance is $6.99 per month and $99 deductible to replace any of the smart phones.
I had the same phone and it was horrible......nothing but problems from the day I got it. My problems wern't with the keyboard but with other basic things like emails & apps. After numorous complaints to location I purchased it at with no results (and they saw the phone not working properly), I delt with Verizon customer service 3 seperate times within a year and they sent me 3 "reconditioned phones" of the same kind..... they were all junk too.
Verizon finally let me "upgrade" my phone early and I went with an HTC. It has been awesome, no problems since.
My husband and I both have the DroidX and both phones have given trouble. The screen kept freezing up on his and my phone is possessed or something. Not only does the screen freeze, but the phone will pull up apps, snap pictures, pull up Internet, etc. etc. etc- all by itself. My husband took his phone to the Verizon store and they said they would mail him a new one. We got the 'new' phone and it was full of photos of naked women, men, pictures of carnivals, babies, you name it. We were wondering how this 'new' phone had all of these photos but now after reading your post I see they must have sent a used phone and forgot to clear out the photos. Reguarding my phone- my father in law took it to Verizon for me (he's kind of a wuss- lets everyone walk over him) and they reset my phone instead of offering a new one, the phone still doesn't work properly so I am going to take it myself to the store. Also concerning the person that posted you get better service if you go to the store instead of calling Verizon is right. Usually if we go to the store they will replace the phone if needed or do what it takes to correct the problem. If you call their 'service line' you get no help at all usually...
Sorry Marty, but you need to get your facts updated. Yes the Thunderbolt did have these issues, but that's yesterdays news. The Thunderbolt has had an OTA update since early July that has fixed the reboot problem, GPS connection, 3g/4g connection, as well as better battery usage. Maybe you should check your facts before writing something as aggressively titled as 5 Android phones to avoid. Please revise and remove the HTC Thunderbolt from the list, thank you.
If I were going to write my Top 10 list again I would still put the Thunderbolt at #1 on my list. My Thunderbolt still restarts, just not as often. GPS can still be VERY screwy and 3G/4G handoff is still spotty at best. Further, the battery life with the standard battery is only marginally improved. The extended battery goes perhaps another hour or two. That's it.
As an owner of the device and a daily user it earned it's spot on my list, as well as this list.
Hang in there Country Girl. I went through 2 Droid X devices myself. And what ever you do insist that Verizon replaces your phone with a new one! Trust me...the Droid X is one of the best phones out there.....it will be worth the effort.
If I were to have read the present opinions posted here about the Dell streak, I would have probably missed out on one fine gadget. I liked the form factor and bought it 4 mnths back and ever since it is part of me. In fact, I was so thrilled I wanted to send a compliment to the Dell team for such a wonderful product. I do not know if there is any economics involved for the reviewers in shooting down a good product!!!
I too have the Dell Streak and I'm very pleased. This was my Christmas gift to myself, and I think it turned out to be a great gift! :) I wonder what the gain is for shooting down this product, but I love the phone... and it's a real attention getter.
thank you! cause I sure plan on getting one! my heart is set on the streak so they can just shove it with these reviews.
Bought mine for Christmas also. Evey time I go to a restaurant and pull it out, the waiter wants to see it, then they go get everyone else!! I have to repeat the spiel about it at least four times at every meal.
Where are all of the Android fanboys? Oh yeah, probably hanging their heads in shame OR they are busy reading and commenting on all of the Apple articles.
I have the HTC EVO and dont read apple articles..ive no need to. Two of my coworkers have Iphones one the 3Gs and one the Iphone4 the 3Gs is a joke the only good thing about the Iphone4 is the resolution on the screen..but he can keep that little S@#$ screen because other than that both their phones are no faster than mine..and speaking of bad connection(dropped calls)..GayT&T is the king. Iphone is a nice phone..but for more simple minded people i think.
I ALSO NEED TO ADD THE AT&T HTC SENSE THAT ALSO IS A TERRIBLE PHONE CONSTANTLY SHUTS DOWN POOR BATTERY LIFE ALSO I SO CANT WAIT TO GET RID OF IT WORST INVESTMENT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HTC Sense is the UI over lay that HTC uses on alot of their devices..not a phone.
yeah, sounds like someone who doesn't know:
1 their caps lock seems stuck
2 sense is a overlay, not a phone
3 if you dont know the difference from a overlay and a phone model then maybe you should consider a dumb phone
...with 'flip action'. (i.e. flip phone)
Hey, Marty Gabel! You should write an article on the 5 or 10 Most Overrated SmartPhones of the past 5 years. I can attest to the facts,
since I used to work in the Hi-Tek Smart
Phone Industry. People! Look up in PC World
and Gadgets and Gizmos the top 5 cell phones of 2010 and the winner is...Not the iphone 4!
Sorrry! You all need to do your research!
I must say I bought the HTC Thunderbolt in April and have had multitudes of problems. And when I say problems I mean major problems. I have had four phones so far, one more and I change phones. Everything from not being able to talk to people in times of emergencies (or in general) I could hear them but they could not hear me (this continues to be a problem and no it's not because of where my hands are placed on the phone I have had an associate prove there was a problem), to not receiving calls, to getting a replacement phone that in two days could not hold a charge for 2 hours with no use. My first phone would decide to randomly delete everything including things that were locked on the phone; numbers, pictures, texts, and songs. Ha and I chose this phone over an IPhone what an idiot. This is definitely a LEMON.
So, I was at the verizon store today looking at their phones.. My contract is up with ATT, and I think verizon service is better. So, i'm deciding on which phone to get, and the guy was selling me the droid..which looks like there are a few. i like all the apps u can do, but until i get one i can't complain about any. i have iphone now.. I'm a "rep" for verizon, tmobile, sprint, nextel. So I'll be getting a phone through myself and earning back commission from my bill every single month for the life of the contract, ..(instead of the guy @ the verizon store).. comment back if u want to do the same :)
I bought the thunderbolt 2 months after it released so that i could read what other people were saying about it. After reading great reviews, I bought it and a week later, after the greatest cell phone let down, traded it back to verizon for the iPhone 4... hands down the best cell phone to buy and will be the best until the iPhone 5
I have a Moto Citrus and I don't have any of the problems claimed in this article. My phone has never gone on Airplane Mode by itself, I have no problem using Google Maps or Navigation, and it hasn't ever frozen up. I also have no issue just going to the web browser to use Yahoo! to search stuff on the internet either.
I will agree that the internet browser is slow though, and lately whenever I go on Facebook Mobile on the browser it force closes the browser before it even finishes loading.
I bought the Thunderbolt also. At first the battery life sucked. I was lucky if I could get it to last 4 hours. I bought the extended life battery. Then made I a few minor adjustments to my phone, like turning all the GPS on. Then changing the screen to auto dim and couple of other small changes. Now my battery will up to 40 hours depending on the time I spend on the internet.
Well 5 isnt so bad i guess seeing how Android is the leading OS on phones now. So having a few bad apples is to be expected. Sure battery life is horrible on lots of them but when you start putting dual core phones with 4.3 inch screens some do 3D some have superAmoledplus some have 1gig of ram people stream off netflix watch youtube listen to pandora text loads of gaming so on and so forth so alot of the super phones(even the new ones coming out) are not going to have that great of battery life if you use the heck out of them..thats just how it is..buy a car charger or an extra battery..or an extended battery.Because until they come up with a new battery technology all these quadcore and god knows what else their coming out with in the future are not going to be any better. And the Iphone had pleny of problems when it was first launched...but there is only one Iphone..no physical keyboard..not 4.0 4.3 4.5 5.0 screens not very much variety. So I like the bigger screens (I have the evo) and could not do the Iphone..or even like the nexusS or the atrix or the droid3. The damn EVO ruined me on the smaller screens. So a few bad phones are a small price to pay for all these companies that are pushing to ONE UP eachother every few months there is pretty much a phone to fit everyones needs (Android wise)
Since were on the topic, can I just ask why you didn't mention a single Motorola "DROID" device? I hate the awful, laggy, buggy, atrocious overlay they put on Android. It makes each of their phones more frustrating than the next. It's a bad move to me when the best Motorola DROID phone is the DROID Pro.
I have to agree...my keyboard when texting on my Droid X lags big time since I upgraded to Gingerbread and now it totally locks up...waiting for a refurbished one....
As a new user to smart phone, I purchased a HTC incredible. Big mistake. While it was highly a useful phone, it drained the battery like a racehorse, so now the phone is practically useless. I wish now to stay with the practical use of a typical cell phone instead of getting a hand held computer-phone that wastes battery power. I now, just leave the phone on the table top while waiting patiently for the contract to expire. Why waste precious time opening a new contract with a new phone while the contract's still good? I am hoping that the flip up, hand held phone will be still available for purchase in the year 2012. If not, then I will opt for an Iphone G5 or a G6. So why complain when I am used to jabbing on my trusty landline phone?
Go to eBay and get a plain jane flip phone to use with your contract... save the data plan cost and get a phone that you can use. That's what I did after buying an HTC Error...er...Eris. I have a really nice little Motorola W755 (I think thats the model #) that I paid $50 for...works great!
The Thunderbolt looks just like my Evo, but my Evo is the shit. What's up with people saying that Android sucks? I personally love it and the only Apple items I get are MP3s. I don't buy phones because I think they freaking suck. Just my opinion. ::))
Just get the bigger battery and it will run all day and all night. the difference is absolutely amazing. $25 battery is a great investment.
The Thunderbolt with it's update about 2-3 weeks ago was garbage. It has now since been fixed. I turned off my 4G on the Thunderbolt, the battery life with 4G IS horrible with 4G turned on. I live no where near a 4G tower anyways. The Garminfone was a pile of garbage along with an outdated Android OS. The Fascinate does wonders on dropping calls. The Droid Incredible was ok, but it looks like the bug fix Droid Incredible solved the issues. I already knew the Streak was garbage as well.
As with any contract phone I buy, once the 2 years is up it gets sold along with the original box & manuals.
I've had the same problems with my LG Revolution. It restarts often, has bing blotware, and has a horrible keyboard.
I have the Thunderbolt, and I completely agree! I'm not sure what other people are doing with their phone to say the battery life is good, but I agree that it's "horrendous!" Yeah, you can disable mobile networks and various other things to improve battery life; however, if you're doing anything that uses the screen, ie apps, games, browsing, your battery will not last long. You need to either charge all the time, have an extended battery, or an extra one to enjoy this phone.
There's also some quality control issues with the phone. For starters, the case on many of these phones is not sealed properly allowing particles into the screen. Verizon says it's normal, HTC says it's not...go figure. THis poblem also allows considerable light leakage along the bottom edges of the screen near the buttons.
Finally, there's one more design flaw that I think is work mentioning. The kickstand is difficult if not impossibe to use while the phone is charging, which is kind of annoying seeing how they could of easily remedied this simply by making the kickstand open from the side opposite to the charge connector.
want great battery life... Learn to root. Some ROMs can double the battery life. ...or else trade on Craigslist. I have amazing battery life now
Also, I think Verizon's messing with you - I have no such gaps in my Thunderbolt...neither does my brother. I'd demand an exchange.
What is Root and Roms? I am new to the Smartphone and I am trying to learn as much as I can about them. Thanks!
I bought the Thunderbolt and get good battery life out of it. It will last all day depending on the usage. I work in a building where the connections are not too good because of all the electronics and so it is searching for networks alot. That uses up the battery but it lasts all day. (8 hours). I have not had any issues with the phone so far. Yes the battery life could be better but I was informed of the battery issue before buying it. I am new to the Smartphone industry but so far the Thunderbolt is great.
For those that still don't know- Use an app killer to extend battery life. My boyfriend has the old Droid Eris and gets a full day use of it even after using it off and on all day to listen to music (he's lucky enough to have that kind of job!)
We're about to upgrade our phones and we're leaving heavy toward the Thunderbolt.
App killers constantly run in the background of the phone and don't work on every model. I personally don't agree with them. If you back out of your applications, it will close them out.
or, if it's an issue, just kill them under the application settings. Agree that I think they are pretty useless.
I've had my streak for a year love it.Every time some one see's me using it they ask's what it is
you forgot to put down the huaweii ascend. that is the worst touch phone i have owned, ever!!!
not great but okay...phone.
I have the orginal Moto Droid and I LOVE it, great battery life and fast. My phone will out download any Verizon Iphone. Highly recomened Droid!
Blatherskeit! Malarkey. Bull-hockey. ROT! btwn my gf and I we've been through 8 or so... i've never insisted Verizon send me a NEW one vs. a refurbished one and MAYBE that's my prob but Moto Droid I DOESN'T. I have to pull the battery to reboot it every other day. If I'm in an emergency, sweating, in sunlight, I'll have better luck signaling help flashing morse code off it's face.
Moto droid was a great phone for me. if you have so many issues - root it. There are soooo many amazing roms for that phone b/c of it's age. It's wierd using it now after upgrading to a much larger screen.
I also use the Droid X. I drive a truck for a living and use Google Navigation. Good program, but the phone is so dang sensitive, it switches screens, and freaks out a lot. Doesnt like the vibration I guess. Now it is doing it a lot just using it like a normal phone.
When you're eligible, try the Casio Commando. Shock resistant which should really help with the issues you are having. And it has a pretty good size screen. Only has a 5mp camera though
the beauty of android imo, are the choices. You can grab a high end device or some crap from cvs. Non the less, you have options, unfortunately the crappy phone makers get to ride on the coat tails of the good phone makers. so please just read reviews about your device, but i dont think i would consider this article unbiased. Beware, i sense a bit of apple fanboyism in this article.
Okay, after reading through a mess load of the comments here. I have to say. One of the biggest issues is not the phones, per say. It is the carrier. I have US Cellular, and if my phone stops working. They will replace it will a new phone of the same model, or the next model up from it if that phone is no longer available. I went cheap with my phone, and got a Samsung Acclaim. It has had a few of the issues that some people are complaining about, but I took the time to learn my phone and how the operating system works on it. Since then I have very little problems with it, unless I get lazy and don't keep up with what needs to be done to keep it working correctly. Just keep in mind people. The operating systems on computers have been around for years, and we all still have issues with them. Learn what you need to do to keep your system running smooth, whether it be your smart phone, or your computer. Life will be easier for you.
You're correct. And alot of people don't realize they need to clean out the cache in their applications as well. Smart guy!
You know why these smartphones are sluggish with short battery life?? The hidden truth is they are not using Atmel touch screen microprocessor chip. It is the only one from already few suppliers that can offer extremely low power consumption with fast responses processor. OS, SW & features do not matters to battery life. Next time, before you buy check them out..
Huawei Ascend sux! Even with the 2.2 upgrade!!
As an indirect agent for Verizon, I wouldn't sell the Thunderbolt if it was $1. I have the Fascinate and the Tab and have been very thrilled with both so I bought my husband the Charge for Father's Day and he loves it! The Citrus is ok, for an early teen. I've had customers who, when asking for a cheap android phone, buy the Citrus and I inform them upfront you're getting what you pay for. Yes it operates on the Android system, but go for the X, Charge, or 2 or 3. But no, they don't want to spend the money. Then they come crying to me asking why I put them in that phone. Idiots.
Fascinate was a great Device, much like it's AT&T counterpart the Captivate. Being an Indirect Agent for the three top cellular companies myself, I have decided to be the Devils Advocate of my colleagues and take AT&T as my carrier of choice. I have been with them now for 4 years, but I have learned to sell across the board. I just hope they can make a new Galaxy Class phone with the power of the Charge and the Body of the Captivate. The Infuse by Samsung failed miserably and I am still not sold with the Charge.
WHERE THE HELL IS THE MOTOROLA BACKFLIP?!?!?!
I work for a Walmart Wireless Center in Madison, and I research every Device that is released, even if we decide not to carry it in our store. So far we have had the MOST luck of non-returns with the Samsung Captivate (Still a VERY popular Device) the LG Optimus S, the Samsung Epic 4G and the HTC Inspire 4G.
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Android doesn't make any phones. These are just smartphones that run using the android OS. It would be like saying 5 Window 7 computers you should avoid buying. These phones are horendous because of thier design and reliability issues. Nothing to do with the OS.
The Thunderbolt makes the list because of the quirks it had at luanch and a few other issues. Weren't most of those fixed with the 2.2 software update. If that is the case shouldn't the Iphone4 be avoided because of the issues it had at launch. Not to mention I owned an Iphone 3G and had to have it replaced 4 times during my contract period because it stopped working. I now own an HTC Evo (only complaint it battery life) and have not had any issues with the phone for over a year now.
I started my Android journey with the Motorola Backflip, and I loved it until I upgrade to the 2.1 version, then it went to crap. Now I have the Atrix, and I absolutely LOVE IT!!! Even with its shattered screen it still works great. There is no way I would ever switch to anything that is not Android based. EVER, and I highly doubt I will be looking for a replacement for my Atrix anytime soon!!!
I'm surprised to see the T-bolt on this list. It's a beast. People were expected better battery life? While power consumption at release was not that good, it has since greatly improved. I've got a charger at work, a charger at home and a car charger. I'm covered.
My T-bolt's performance is excellent and I've experienced no technical issues. My only complaint is the lack of an HDMI port, but that's only because I get to travel a lot and could use it to play HBO Go content, etc. to my hotel TV. Somebody did mention the poor placement of the kickstand in relation to watching video, and while that's a valid complaint, it is easily worked around.
Anyone who has seen "Attack Of The Show" on G4TV knows the main reason to not buy a Android. Why? It has been reported from Android technicians themselves that there's malware on the phone. Malware is virus software that allows another hacker to spy on you. The hacker can record you're phone call, send it over to the sd card in the phone, then the data is sent over to the hacker like a fax.
The writer of this article is clueless. The Streak is not a smartphone, it's a tablet, and a daggone good one at that. It compares very favorably to my iPad and it smaller, easier to handle and much faster. I felt so strongly about the Streak, I traded my iPhone for a Droid X2.
My EVO 4G has a battery that last all day long, IF I stay off of it! If I am on it which I use it often then maybe for 8hours then need to charge! But I dont mind, it has great qualities that override the battery!
Rooted Thunderbolt = Bliss.
Currently running Gingeritis 3D. ...but there are so many options.
thank goodness there's no samsung in here! yay 4 samsung!
I waited months for the thunderbolt to come out & it definitely wasn't worth it! I hate this phone. I actually would rather have my old (non-smart phone) back. Not only am I charging the battery constantly, the phone was power-cycling a few times a day. Now that has stopped but there are always quirks that make it impossible to use the phone correctly. I have called Verizon numerous times to replace this phone but they won't let me. Guess I'm stuck with this shitty phone!
I find that the battery life on my thunderbolt is pretty much what I would expect from any device that constantly has a million things running on it. Though there were software problems when I first got the phone, it's been nothing but perfect since the last update. And like the article somewhat understated, the phone is a BEAST.
I just want to add a comment.Take it for what it's worth. I purchased a HTC Inspire phone from Best Buy 4weeks ago because my girlfriend was urging me to get one so she could text me.Up until that point I had a Tracphone (I know it's it's ancient.But I never use cell phones unless it's an emergency.So it spent most of the time in my glove box).So I purchased the Inspire with a 2 year service plan.And after the first week I hated the phone.The phone would dial contacts for no reason,the backround light would go dim for no reason,so I would have to keep resetting it.And the battery would die in about 4 hours and that was with out me using any apps.Also you people that own one the phone has a GPS in it and there is an app called Phone Tracker and anyone who has your number can locate exactly where you are.My girlfriend was with me one saturday night and pinpointed my exact location on her phone.It blew my mind.Needless to say I returned the phone after 3 weeks.And still got saddled with a bill from at&t for $160.The phone is more of a hinderance than a help.
they sell very fast here in Africa. Defects can only be seen when yu have something to compare with.
Thunderbolt battery lasts LOTS longer if you disable 4G and use 3G only. (http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-20046412-285/how-to-disable-4g-on-the-htc-thunderbolt-for-battery-savings/)
I am a owner of a Verizon HTC Thunderbolt. I was talked into purchasing this phone by a Verizon rep at the store over purchasing the Iphone. I do love my Thunderbolt yet, the battery life does suck. I guess i don't see that as a major problem due to the fact that I have a charger in my house, office, and both vehicles. As far as the restarts due to switching from 3G to 4G areas; I have not experienced a restart, my phone just switches. My question is the Thunderbolt truly better than the Iphone 4G?
Expandable memory...ability to change battery...flash...not having Apple's steel fist dictating what you may and may not have...just to name a few.
FYI: the iPhone isn't 4G
Ok so I have the Thunderbolt, I don't believe it belongs in the above list, there are FAR worse phones out there. Almost every smart phone I know has battery life issues, when you use it as much as I do, that is just what happens. It's not "news" that smartphones just don't have the battery life like the old brick phones from 5 years ago. If you want to conserve battery life turn off GPS, Wireless and 4G when you are not using it!
I would take one HTC Thunderbolt over 5 iPhones any day! The Evo/Thunderbolt is the best phone I have ever owned! It is powerful, the display is fantastic, and you are not tied down to Steve Jobs' enormous ego!
I am with T-Mobile and I have two to add to this list: The LG Optimus and the worst phone ever unleashed on an unsuspecting public; the LG G2X! The Optimus was just a goofy little phone with quirky habits, poor reception and battery life, and was ugly as hell. the G2X, on the other hand, was a phone that should never have even seen the light of day. At least not as soon as it did. The G2X had tons of problems from battery drain and just randomly turning off to the screen leaking light around it's edge and having the Swype keyboard app basically go insane and only type gibberish. The really messed up part is how T-Mobile and LG are handling the whole issue. They rushed a defective phone to market just to be the first dual core phone available, and did huge sales numbers, but when the problems started cropping up and the complaints came rolling in, neither T-Mobile nor LG offered, nor will they offer, any type of recourse other than to say that an update is coming shortly (been hearing that for months) and to do the typical (useless in this case, and they know it!) troubleshoot, reset, send for replacement cycle that is standard operating procedure. Yes, I bought one and yes, I am a little bitter. I have purchased a $500 paperweight. Yay, me!
Me and my brother have the Citrus he has had a few issues with his but hes one of these ppl that couldnt program a vcr to record if his life depended on it. as for me the citrus is not my fav phone out there I just got tired of sprint so I switched to version cause 90% of the ppl I know r on version and its free for us to talk. as for the pre-installed applications if u know what ur doing u can get rid of them as I did and I use google as my search the only issue ive had is that it has froze up a few times but if u just hit the power button to turn off the screen then hit it again to turn it back on it will unfreeze.....
I work for a small wireless company in the Midwest, we only have 3g in the urban markets at this time. I work in field operations as a technician and use the blackberry bold, with the engineering screen functions, so I end up dabbling into many advanced settings with this unit. Some of our noc techs have the android based smartphones and this advice applies to them as well. When it comes to battery life, here are a few things to greatly lengthen your battery time...one, turn off wi-fi unless you are in an area that you are actually going to use it. Second, turn off your GPS unless you are actually using that as well. You will need to go into your advanced settings and disable your GPS. its easy to do, if you leave it on all the time, this information is continually updated to the network and it is very easy to hack into your whereabouts and track your activities. Yes I know, you have nothing to hide. blah blah blah, but where you are is no ones business and the constant network information updating is drawing power from you battery. My blackberry 9700 can easily go for three days without charging when I follow these easy steps.... when you WANT to use your gps to find something, turn it on, find it, use it, then turn it off. Real simple...
I have the HTC Thunderbolt and it is the worst phone i have ever had!!!!!!! I HATE IT! It is constantly glitching shutting itself off, sending people texts I sent to other people, force closing every app I open. And this is my SECOND one. The phone is CRAP. DO NOT BUY ONE.
oh and the when you hold the phone to your face if you don't hold it juuust right it doesn't turn black and you hang up on the person. It's ridiculous. I'm constantly hanging up on people because I can't move when I talk to people or I have to have the phone inches away from my face. It's a horrible phone.
benefits: great camera, 4G
I can't imagine how the HTC TB could hit a list of android phones to avoid. I did think my user experience with the HTC EVO was far superior to the HTC TB, but nevertheless the TB is a great phone with relatively few quirks. Battery life is always a concern on android phones, esp if you compare to the Iphone. I'd suspect you can easily find dozens of Android phones which should avoided long before the TB appears on your list.
It seems like battery life is a major issue with every smartphone out there! Honestly, the phone companies should just add a second charger and a quick guide to extending your charge (Turn off GPS, Wi-Fi, bluetooth, etc unless using it). I'm not sure if a phone should be included on a worst list unless it is egregiously bad.
Okay, I am not quite sure where this guy lives that he is constantly going from 3G TO 4G, but I am sorry, I can't agree with this report. I have the HTC Thunderbolt, and I have to say I haved loved this phone from start, and I have an iphone, and I use my HTC more, the iphone is overrated.I haven't encountered any of the problems he mentioned so is it just one person crying or Now yes I do have to say that the battery life isn't the best, but I have charged my phone and it has lasted me pretty much all day and then some, but maybe because I keep it on the charger when not in use, but then again, it has lasted me a long time before I need to recharge. Otherwise I love all the apps,look and style of this phone, so if you want to just nitpick because that is what you guys are doing, then fine, the Thunderbolt is one of the best phones I have ever had. So , Marty perhaps you should revise your list, I don't even think that dude has a Thunderbolt. If he did I'm sure he would never have posted that mess.
Please ad the DROID ERIS to this list!!! I HATE IT SO MUCH ITS A TOTAL PIECE OF CRAP!!!
avoid the samsung intercept
I would add my G2 to this list, for 7 months I have dealt with T-mobile trying to get the wifi calling to work correctly. 3 phones, 2 routers and 30+ hours of phone calls later, All T-mobile will say is they do not guarantee service.
I will add my G2 to this list. I have tried, for 7 months, to get the wifi calling feature to work correctly. After 3 phones, 2 routers and 30+ hours of calls to tech support, all T-mobile will say is that they cannot guarantee service.
I will add my G2 to this list. I have been dealing with T-mobile for 7 months trying to get the Wi-Fi calling to work. After 3 phones, 2 routers and 30+ hours of phone calls, all they will say is they do not guarantee service.
Worst article I have ever read. THE DELL STREAK?! Have you even tried out this phone?? It is amazing!! Sorry that you wear death grip skinny jeans. You are going of Walt Mossberg?? That guy is retarded as well!! All you talked about was the form factor. The OS, the hardware is up to par (from last year at least since dual core is showing up). This phone came out a year ago....Marty Gabel, don't ever write an article about the dell streak since you clearly know nothing about it. streaksmart.com this is a real review site: http://reviews.cnet.com/dell-streak-review and this isnt even updated because of the OS which is now updated to 2.2
Much agreed. Marty doesnt know what he/she is speaking about at all.
Love reading all the comments just want to say the DROID Incredible's battery is not all the good as well I may get 8hrs out of it all I use it for is text calls and checking email, with all the crap software on it like Cityid and stocks and so on no wonder the battery life is junk I don't understand why a phone maker cant make a phone without all that crap in it, would be nice for us owners to delete those apps if we don't want them, do you not agree, I would like to see a phone with a longer battery life, a 1GZ or more, a front and back camera 8mp better notification alerts including led lights, better protection as in more rubber around it not plastic, My biggest issue is a better screen that you can see in bright light, I cant even see mine if I go outside its useless to me until I go to a darker area.. and I hate matted screens, just make it with a brighter light how hard can that be, just need a good screen so you don't get any burn through.
You know what all of these are old phones, and the iphone is still garbage, whoopty doo about battery life, your getting a mini computer with most android phones, What do you expect, bigger and faster means more power. An Android phone from 2 years ago kills the iphone 4.
If your savvy enough, root the thunderbolt and install one of the many Gingerbread rom's out there and enjoy the awesomeness that is the Thunderbolt. I to was ready to throw my phone under a bus until I rooted it and I've never been happier. Remember root and thyne heart will be content.My Personal opinion.....DAS BAMF 3.0 rc 4.9
I would like to comment on this, i hope Apple will read this also. I am an Apple 3Gs user for almmost two years now.
I have a problem on my iPhone eversince, the battery life of my iPhone only last for one day only, worst is less than a day if i have calls and bunch of emails.
Is this nornmal? I wish Apple will help me on this.
I wonder how much Apple paid to have this article published. I have the ITouch which is the same thing as an IPhone only without the talk and I have the HTC Evo and neither one have stellar battery life. I love my Evo so lay off the andriods Apple!
personally i got the Thunderbolt myself , for awhile its battery life was messed up , but now i didn't even have to charge it over the weekend at all , that's with a Live Wallpaper too when people told me it would kill the battery life , so i don't know what everyone says the battery life is horrible at this point.
Then I''m usually sitting up at college most of the time on facebook and texting , so i don't know what influences its battery life at this point , all i know is it lasts for 2 days without NEEDING a charge.
Um, the Droid Eris (by HTC) should be on this list aswell. Super slow, freezes, constantly force closing apps, and the battery life sucks.
I really disagree with the thunderbolt being on this list. All issues with the phone turning off have been fixed with the last software release. The poor battery life is INCREDIBLY over exaggerated. It can easily make it through a full day of normal use. Granted it won't make it through a full day of streaming netflix but hey even everyone's beloved (and overrated) iphone cant do that. I have found that the battery life is no worse than any other smartphone.
It's easy to find 10 bad Android smart-phones. Heck, I could list 20 of them. Its just there are so many of them. Overall I would say all the devices on the list would fall in the lower end of Android handsets. You could argue about the Thunderbolt but it has had a bumpy road.
Google should be held responsible for much problems as they have 0 real customer service along with manufactures who dont solve problems as the pattern lock problems with android phones esp. Samsung that brick after 3 attempts at unlocking phone.
To those complaining about battery life on Android phones, there are two incredible apps on the Android Market. The first is the Advanced Task Manager, and it's free. Download it, and change the settings so that it automatically kills your background tasks as frequently as possible as well as every time you lock your phone. There are so many programs that are constantly running in the background that you aren't even aware of. The second app is Juice Defender, which is also free. You can customize how the app uses your battery, but the balanced plan alone has increased my battery life dramatically. Finally, turn off GPS and wi-fi anytime you aren't using them. These two alone drain your battery quickly.
I avoid all Androids after my MyTouch 4g slide. I love my iPhone now. All HTC battery lives suck!
You either have an iPhone... or you don't... it's that simple ;)
Marty, I think the worst is the Droid 2. The problem the we are having seems to come from the clear screen protector that Verizon sells you! Without it the phone works pretty well, with it the phone acts wierd. If you get anything on it, including a fingerprint or sweat, the screen jumps as if it is having a seizure! Apps are constantly freezing. I was told when I purchased it that you should never have to reboot the phone because it will do it automatically. However I find myself doing it daily (it helps). It cannot pick up a cell signal, even if I am standing within a mile of a tower! How much of that problem is the network has yet to be proven, but we are really regretting investing the money for the plan and the phone! As for the network (Verizon) lets just say...AT& T here we come!
I cannot whole-heartedly agree that you added the Garminfone. Yes, I have Google Maps on my Vibrant. But it takes FOREVER to load and doesn't always get a good reading! My husband's Garminfone is fast and very accurate. It has been a huge blessing for all the traveling we do. I agree there are other parts of the phone that isn't as up-to-date as other phones on the market. But the GPS part of the phone is beyond compare.
Some people write great and beautiful reviews, sad to say you're not one of them. If you need to compare then it's best to compare 'apple to apple' my friend
Go for the Droid X2 I love mine!
Motorola Atrix has good battery life as long as wifi is not turned on. Having it constantly scan for a network really drains the battery, but as long as you turn if off when you're leaving your home network, battery life is pretty good. I love this phone and now since the Android OS was upgraded last week and I'm used to it, I love it even more. They fixed some issues I had with the keyboard (but created a couple minor ones as well).
Gotta add LG Ally to the list. Not enough power, serious bugs render Bluetooth useless, users frequently complain about internal memory filling up (even though it shows that there is plenty of memory available) with the only solution being to reset the phone.
It's too bad. The size works for me and the keyboard is great. As is typical with most two-piece phones, there doesn't seem to be a good case on the market for it.
Can someone please come out with a powerful smartphone with a full keyboard? Oh and get Verizon to make it available for their network?
I have a Comet/ Ideos, and coming from a Motorola Cliq XT, this thing is a beast ! And, I don't have any issues with it, good battery life after reading and doing already many of the suggestions noted by others. And, I have it overclocked and rooted as well.
The Dell Streak is a great device. I purchased it at launch a couple of months before I purchased a Samsung Captivate and used them both regularly. The Streak had a much better GPS as the captivate suffered from issues with thiers. The car mount for the Streak was a great addition to my purchase. The Streak has always fit easily into any pocket I have put it into. I love to surf the web on my Streak. The extra screen size makes such a huge difference. I recently traded my Galaxy S Captivate in for a move to Sprint with the Evo 4G and I must say that the build of that phone does not even compare to the Streak. My Streak feels solid with metal casing on the back. The evo's plastic is already scratched after only a few rides on my pocket. Not saying the 4G is a bad phone, but the jury is still out on Sprint service thru the upper midwest. It took a little tweaking for my Dell Streak to become one of my all time favorite devices, but I love the thing now and will be a little sad when it becomes outdated if I cannot find a comparable replacement. And like others have stated, I get way more compliments and interest in my Streak than I have ever gotten with any other phone.
Not sure where the author of this article is getting their information, but it is totally false. Apparently, the author works for Apple. I have an HTC (former iPhone owner) and it is FAR superior to the iPhone. The iPhone is cumbersome an not user friendly at all. As a matter of fact, my company is moving from iPhones to all HTC's. Too many issues with the iPhone.
This is untrue. I don't know about the other phones but don't include the Thunderbolt. I can guarantee that my Thunderbolt is better than any iPhone out there. It's capabilities list is off the charts. The battery life is not that bad and can last me a full 24 hours on one charge. Also I know plenty of people have experienced random reboots, but I myself have never experienced one. My girlfriend has a Droidx2 and she has more problems on her phone than mine. Thunderbolt for the win!
Finally glad to hear someone else has problems with their DroidX2. I'm on my 5th phone!!! I hate this phone!! Too many glitches and errors.
android is so much better than apple. apple sucks. i have had nothing but problems with apple products.
The Streak fits just fine in my pocket. I'm guessing the reviewer has never actually used one. The form factor is gorgeous -- for one thing, you don't have to squint to read the screen like you do with most phones. I don't know why people get hung up on whether it's a tablet or a phone -- maybe because Dell didn't market it well when it first came out. You just have to take it for what it is -- which is basically an extra-large phone. It's only 0.7 inches bigger than the 4.3-inch phones on the market, so I really don't know what all the fuss is about regarding how supposedly unwieldy it is. Besides, if you want a tablet with no phone, you can just get the Streak 7.
As for being inferior to the iPad ... again, it's comparing apples and oranges, but I have an iPad, and I usually end up reaching for my Streak instead. The Streak takes better pictures, I can view flash websites, and it's not a slave to iTunes.
Oh, and take anything Walt Mossberg says with a grain of salt. He's such an Apple shill, I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Jobs has him on the payroll. Anything that doesn't come from Cupertino, Mossberg finds fault with.
Now, the Streak isn't perfect. The battery life is short, it uses a hard-to-find PDMI connection, and I have frequent problems with screen freezes and spontaneous reboots. If the reviewer had focused on these issues, I could maybe believe that he'd actually used one. Instead, he just comes off sounding like he doesn't know what he's talking about.
The head guy for Dell's department which made this hideous Dell Slate has been fired for this but i can't believe they still offer this to the public.
I don't agree about your comments with the Garminfone. First the GPS utility in this phone is 100 times better than the Google maps and the connectivity directly to satellite is a more accurate performance. The rest of the phone perform as any other Android now with the upgraded version 2.6. I give this phone a 10 out of 10.
By the Way this phone was free with activation the last time I checked.... That is a hell of a deal and I don't work for Tmobile or Garmin (I work for another company) Now One thing is for sure. I will drop all five lines that I have with TMobile as soon as they become ATT... 3 of the lines are GarminFone and 2 are MyTouch 4g.
I got one of those batteries that extended the battery life of my HTC. I put my screen on auto dim and I also tweak some settings to my phone. Now my battery will up to 40 hours depending on the time I spend on the internet.Well, I had the results I wanted, it did extend the battery life of my HTC sensation. Anyways, since the update, it had really performed much much better :)
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This article is worthless. The HTC Thunderbolt is still the best phone on verizon at the moment. The battery life issue is only for people with non rooted phones. My thunderbolt is overclocked to 1.8 GHz and has fine battery life. I also get 2900+ quardrant scores and 15Mbps+ down and 3Mbps+ up.
Add Motorola DroidX and X2. I am on my 5th phone. I have had 4 DroidX phones that all have had something verified by my wireless network as defective whether it be a bad camera quality to slow processor, shutting on and off mysteriously, vanishing texting while texting and very poor battery life. I had to upgrade to a DroidX2 and I must say that this phone is not much better. The battery life is about 1 hour longer than my old X, however, I am still experiencing my phone just shutting off whenever it feels like it and it is slow at opening apps and the browser. I'm really hating the word "forceclose". I would say definitely add this phone to that list. No phone is perfect but I thought I hated my Blackberry....my apologies to my blackberry!!!
I have the HTC Thunderbolt and I can honestly say I have never encountered a single problem with it. I'm not saying that they are all this way, because I know problems exist with it, but really, it isn't that hard to buy an extended battery (which aren't even expensive). I can easily go a full day and have at least 50% of my battery left (and I rarely even get that low).
My overall opinion of the Thunderbolt is that it is the best phone I have ever owned. Fast, reliable, great features. Battery life isn't even an issue if you get an extended battery or even if you just turn stuff off when you aren't using it like 3/4g.
I have the Huawei Ascend from Cricket, and my battery always runs low.
Disagree. The iphone is horrible. All my friends complain about their iphone, while wishing they had my Droid HTC Evo. Get a grip, Marty. All droids "measure up" AND surpass the iPhone. It's time to let go and move on. Maybe you're still one of those people who use Myspace LOL Iphones are old news. Droids are where it's at. The only people who complain about them are those who aren't smart enough to know how to use a phone... any smartphone for that matter.
I have an Evo Shift 4G from sprint. I loved it when I first got it but now don't care for it. We don't have 4G coverage in WI yet, so that feature is moot. I have loading issues anytime i navigate from one function to another. This lasts anywhere from 5 - 10 seconds. This is my biiggest complaint with this phone. That and the battery life sucks, and Youtube skips like crazy. I went on the Sprint site and everyone is complaining about the loading issue. HTC's continue to let me down : (
Well I have an Evo 4G & have never had any problems. My battery lasts 16-24 hours depending on how much I'm on it & what I use it for & I never have loading issues. Maybe you should have Sprint switch out your phone with something else!!
It's sad what Motorola and Samsung have become. They used to be the best cell phones on the market, now they are garbage.
Nokia was always trash as far as I'm concerned. Their products were never "user friendly"
Right now, I'm hearing good things about LG, which has been pretty consitently top rated with it's products.
Even iPhone has different reviews, based on which service you are using. Their phones are completely different between the two carriers that now use them.
Don't waste your time with the Samsung Intercept either. Virgin Mobile and Sprint have this prepaid phone (no contract) as high as $250, but now running around $169 at BestBuy. It sucks. Crashes regularly, half the apps won't install or won't update forcing you to uninstall and reinstall the new version. It is so incredibly locked down that sometimes a restart will wipe your recent settings. It can't track the time without a network connection for Pete's sake. What kind of computer does that? With VM, you pay $25 or now $35/month for 300 minutes & unlimited text and internet, but the phone instantly loses 2 bars of reception as soon as you try to make a call or use data. Sometimes with 5 bars of strength, I still can't use data.
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